True Crime

Two attorneys explore the dark side of human nature by detailing hardcore true crime homicide cases from around the world.

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January 26, 2021

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The media in Columbus, Georgia gave the name "The Stocking Strangler" to a serial killer in the area that preyed on elderly white women in 1978.  In April of that year, a local newspaper and the police began receiving letters from an alleged vigilante group calling themselves "The Forces of Evil."  This group warned that if the Stocking Strangler didn't stop killing caucasian "grannies" the Forces of Evil would begin killing African-American women.  Within a few days, the brutal body of their first victim was discovered.   

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Sources:
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/crime/article173756466.html
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article194938679.html
https://www.wtvm.com/story/17093915/dna-results-reveal-new-questions-in-columbus-stocking-strangler-case/
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/article205699234.html

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On Halloween night 1984, Doreen Erbert was 8 months pregnant. She and her second husband, Charles were going to welcome a baby boy in about a month. Doreen and Charles were ecstatic at the prospect of being parents again, especially after they suffered pregnancy loss in the years prior. Doreen had also suffered the loss of her first child with her first husband in a terrible accident. After trick-or-treating with their 4-year-old daughter, Charles told Doreen he was going to run an errand and returned home after only 15 minutes. When Charles came home, he knew something was very wrong. The front door was ajar, and when Charles went further into the house, he found a scene straight out of a horror movie. Listen to this week’s episode to find out more.

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People v. William Michael Dennis, 17 Cal.4th 468

UPI Article

Lake County Record-Bee Article

The San Francisco Examiner Article

 

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December 28, 2020

EP64: The Gypsy Hill Murders

In a six-month time span in 1976, five women were murdered near Gypsy Hill Road in San Francisco, California.   Another woman named Michelle Mitchell was murdered in a similar manner in Reno, Nevada and investigators believed all of the killings were linked to a serial killer, who stopped as suddenly as he started.    However, that theory was turned upside down when a year later, four employees at a strip club were convicted of one of the murders and implicated in another of the Gypsy Hill deaths.  Four years after the first Gypsy Hill murder, a woman named Cathy Woods confessed to one of the killings.  Cathy was tried, convicted, and sentenced to life for the murder.  Then, 35 years later DNA testing was done on all the evidence found at six murder scenes, and the results shocked everyone involved in the cases.

 

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Sources and Special Thanks to:

https://www.newsreview.com/reno/case-goes-on/content?oid=16511718

https://www.newspapers.com/image/?clipping_id=9997075&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjE0OTc5Nzk0MiwiaWF0IjoxNjAzODk1OTQ5LCJleHAiOjE2MDM5ODIzNDl9.xNrTb_EbPcJbHedTTvCr3Y915XoDwsAz7_IdbkDavW8

https://murderpedia.org/female.W/w/woods-cathy-photos.htm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5077809/Cold-case-DNA-links-sex-predator-71-1976-murder.html

 

https://www.newsreview.com/reno/content/the-long-sentence/29618697/

 

https://listverse.com/2018/06/19/10-disturbing-facts-of-the-gypsy-hill-murders/

 

https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/2015/01/muskegon_heights_native_charge.html

 

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/05/24/man-accused-in-gypsy-hill-killings-has-spent-nearly-50-years-jailed/#:~:text=July%201977%20%E2%80%93%20Arrested%20for%20kidnapping,serve%20rest%20of%20rape%20sentence.&text=March%2C%201987%20%E2%80%93%20Oregon%20jury%20convicts,to%2015%2Dyears%20in%20prison.

 

https://www.newsreview.com/reno/content/victims-who-count-victims-who-dont/640061/

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In the 1970s there was someone lurking, stalking, and attacking women in the Metro Detroit area. The viciousness and brutality increased with each attack until women were ending up dead in truly grotesque ways. The attacks in Michigan ended in 1981 because the killer, later determined to be Coral Watts, decided the heat was getting too hot and moved to Texas to continue his killing spree. By the time he was caught, Coral Watts ended up admitting to over 100 murders. Listen to this week’s episode to learn about Carl Eugene “Coral” Watts,  one of the most prolific serial killers in American history.

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Sources for this episode:

Radford University, Dept. of Psychology Research

Murderpedia.org

NY Times Article 

Coral Watts Serial Killer Podcast

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A week before Christmas in 1983, Kathy Smith went shopping for gifts for her three children.  Later that evening, when she returned home in Philadelphia, she noticed the lights weren't working throughout most of the house.  She called her mother, who lived next door, and she came over with a flashlight.  Together, they went to the basement to see if a fuse was blown.  That's when their nightmare began...

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Mark Kilroy and his friends decided to go on Spring Break 1989 to South Padre Island in Texas. In the midst of their partying, Mark and his friends decided to cross the American/Mexican border one night to check out the nightlife in Matamoros, Mexico. Little did they know but Matamoros was holding a secret—people were disappearing at an alarming rate. On the night of March 14, 1989, Mark’s friends lost him in the excitement of the night and reported him missing. When police finally uncovered what actually happened to Mark, it was a story that was unbelievable—one with black magic and the practices of Palo Mayombe at its core. Drug dealer and serial killer Adolfo Constanzo and his followers were running wild in Matamoros and they believed the more their victims suffered, the bigger the reward for the cult.  Listen to this week’s episode to find out what happened to Mark during the last hours of his life.

 

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Sources for this episode:

Aldolfo Constanzo--Murderpedia.com

Sara Aldrete--Murderpedia.com

PavementPieces.com Article

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Brittany Killgore was a beautiful 22-year-old woman married to Marine Cory Killgore.   Originally from Pennsylvania, she moved to Fallbrook, California, near the Camp Pendleton base.  While there, Cory got sent to Afghanistan and their marriage fell apart.  In 2012, she filed for divorce and started packing to move back east.  Before she left, she really wanted to go on a dinner cruise called the Hornblower that her best friend Liz told her about. Brittany Killgore knew Louis Perez, his girlfriend Dorothy Maraglino and her best friend Jessica Lopez, through Liz.  Louis, Dorothy and Jessica were into the BDSM lifestyle.  Together, they shared a dark fantasy of kidnap, rape, torture and murder.  On April 14, 2012, they decided to act out this fantasy.  They tricked Brittany into believing she was going on the dinner cruise with Louis, but it didn't take long for Brittany to realize something was very wrong.  Ten minutes after being picked up by Louis to go on the dinner cruise, she texted a friend "Help."  That was the last anyone ever heard from her.
 

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In the early morning hours of March 1, 2008, a call came into the local sheriff’s department that there had been a shooting at the Caffey family home in Alba, Texas. The deputy that responded to the call found the Caffey home ablaze when he got to there. Where were the family members—dad Terry, mom, Penny, and their three children Erin, Matthew, and Tyler? Who set the fire? Listen to this week’s episode to find out the answers to all of these questions and more.

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Sources: Murderpedia

Article in Texas Monthly By Pamela Colloff 

 

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The women of San Diego, California were near hysteria in 1990.  Headlines in the news read "Eerie Serial Killings Have San Diego Women on the Edge.”  A monster was breaking into the apartment of young women during the day and murdering them.  Six women were killed within one year, and dozens of others were burglarized.   In addition, a handful of women barely escaped the clutches of this serial killer.  A profile was developed by the FBI who determined the assailant was a "signature killer" who was also a piquerest.  Unbeknownst to the police, they had spoken with the murderer, Cleophus Prince, Jr. on multiple occasions, but he didn't fit the profile, so they never pursued him as a viable suspect. Listen to this episode of Crimes & Consequences to learn more about serial killer Cleophus Prince, Jr.

 

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On Pioneer Day in 1984, in Utah, the Lafferty Brothers, Ron and Dan, decided it was time for their “Removal Revelation” to be carried out. Ron had been excommunicated from the Church of Latter-Day Saints (LDS) the year earlier, and since then, he and Dan believed Ron received orders from God to “remove” four people—two members of the LDS church as well as one of their younger brothers’ wife and baby daughter. Listen to this episode to find out if the Removal Revelation was carried out.

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Sources:

https://www.deseret.com/2004/7/27/19841799/1984-lafferty-case-still-haunts#ron-lafferty-left-and-attorney-ron-yengich-review-documents-naming-yengich-as-laffertys-attorney-on-sept-25-2002-in-4th-district-court-in-provo

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/11/11/utah-death-row-inmate-ron/

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ron-lafferty-utah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_v._Lafferty

https://m.cityweekly.net/utah/blood-brothers/Content?oid=2469422&storyPage=2

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From May 1979 to November 1984, there were six unsolved throat-slashing killings in the San Diego area. The police arrested a man and while he was in jail awaiting his trial, the throat slasher struck again. However, this victim, who was left for dead on the side of the road, survived her injuries and was able to help authorities capture the real killer and end his throat-slashing spree.

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October 26, 2020

EP55: Dumped in the Desert

In September 1992, Jennifer Asbenson was running late to her job. She missed the bus and didn’t have her own transportation. In her moment of desperation, she accepted a ride from a stranger. However, this stranger ended up dropping her off at her job with very little incident. Jennifer thought he was a little weird and gave him a fake number when he asked. The following day when he showed up at her job she again got in his car. That was when things went haywire. Jennifer Asbenson had accepted a ride from serial killer Andrew Urdiales.  Andrew Urdiales was convicted of eight murders in California and Illinois, with Jennifer encountering him right in the middle of his killing spree.  Listen to this week’s episode to learn more about Andrew Urdiales' despicable crimes.

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Debbie Sue Carter knew she was in trouble.  Someone was at her home at 2:00 am that made her feel uncomfortable enough to call her friend to come to get her.  Before her friend left, Debbie called her back and told her not to come over.  The next day Debbie was found raped and murdered.  She had been brutalized with a ketchup bottle and her killer had written messages all over her body and apartment. Two men, Ronald Williamson and Dennis Fritz were convicted of the murder.  Twelve years later, they were exonerated and her real killer was brought to justice.  Listen to find out who tortured, raped, and murdered Debbie Sue Carter.

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October 12, 2020

EP53: The Wichita Massacre

During a cold, wintery week in December 2002, brothers Reginald and Jonathan Carr decided to go on a crime spree that ended with 5 people dead and 2 others mentally scarred for life. The Carr Brothers’ final heinous act ended on December 15, where they shot 5 friends execution-style in a soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. The brothers failed to make sure their victims were all dead, and one of the women survived. The survivor told a traumatizing story of being raped, and forced rape between victims. If it wasn’t for this eyewitness, we may have never known all the details of the Wichita Massacre. Listen to this week's episode: The Wichita Massacre.

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Almost every true crime addict knows about the infamous Louisiana serial killer Derrick Todd Lee.  However, most people have never heard of Louisiana’s other serial killer: Nathaniel Code.  Nathaniel Code had a unique ritual that linked him to at least eight murders but his true victim count is estimated to be double that amount.  What made his crimes so unique that even the FBI had never seen anything like that before?  Listen now to find out.

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September 28, 2020

EP51: The Dark Strangler

Earle Nelson was the first serial killer in the U.S. to get widespread media notoriety throughout the United States, Canada and Australia. During 1926-27, he killed at least 22 people, and most of them were classified as “sex murders”—meaning Earle derived sexual pleasure during the killing. Earle denied responsibility for the murders until his last dying breath—which was taken at the gallows of San Quentin Prison. Listen to this week’s episode to learn more about Earle’s depraved and horrendous crimes and what ultimately lead to his capture.

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SOURCES: MURDERPEDIA.COM

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September 21, 2020

EP50: The Death of Deanna Cook

Imagine being attacked and calling 911 during it.  Would you feel a spark of hope that you might be saved? Deanna Cook was on the phone with 911 for 17 minutes, but due to mishaps with the system, the police didn’t arrive until almost an hour later.  When they got there, no one came to the door, so they left.  Three days later her concerned family went to her house looking for her only to discover her body floating in the bathtub.  This is the heartbreaking story of the death of Deanna Cook. 

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September 14, 2020

EP49: The Lake Elsinore Killer

In the late 1980s and early 1990s, the bodies of young women (many were believed to be sex workers) were showing up around the Lake Elsinore, California area. As the body count was piling up the police began to realize that they had a serial killer in the area. Each murder victim underwent unspeakable horrors—some of the women suffered greatly and their bodies evidenced this fact. When police finally tracked down a viable suspect, everything seemed to fall into place--especially when the killer had kept so many souvenirs of his victims. Listen to this week’s episode to find out about the horrible crimes of serial killer William Lester Suff.

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In January of 2007, Channon Christian was a beautiful and intelligent 21-year-old sociology major who
studied at the University of Knoxville in Tennessee. She had been dating 23-year-old Christopher
Newsom for about two months when they decided to have dinner and then go to a party one Saturday
night. They never made it to the party because they were carjacked at an apartment complex. What
transpired after their kidnapping was one of the most brutal and horrific crimes that has ever occurred
in Knoxville.  Listen to the horrific story of the deaths of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.

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Source: Knoxville’s Endless Nightmare by Mike Pelletier

 

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In May 1991, Sabina Kulakowski was found dead outside of her farmhouse, as it burned to the ground. She had been beaten, stabbed, strangled and there were bite marks all over her body. A week prior to her death, a man named Roy Brown had been released from jail after serving time making threats to the Cayuga County, New York Department of Human Services. Roy was Suspect #1, because had threatened to kill everyone at the office when his daughter had been taken from him and placed in foster care. Despite his arrest and conviction for Sabina’s death, Roy didn’t do it and had to solve her murder from behind bars, before he was released after serving 15 long years behind bars. Listen to this week’s episode to find out how Roy’s life changed after his wrongful conviction.

 

 

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Sources for Episode:

https://cnycentral.com/news/local/roy-brown-wrongfully-convicted-in-cayuga-county-murder-passes-away-at-58

 

https://www.syracuse.com/news/2011/04/roy_brown_a_free_man_now_back.html

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/24/nyregion/24brown.html

 

https://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3064

 

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On May 31, 2000, Nineteen-year-old Jill Behrman, went missing while riding her bike in Bloomington, Indiana. A local woman named Wendy Owings, and two of her shady friends confessed to 46 people that they murdered Jill. Wendy provided a detailed confession to the police and passed a polygraph test regarding her account of the crime. Wendy's confession lead the police to drain Salt River, where they found evidence corroborating her story; however, they didn't have enough to make an arrest and they still hadn't found Jill's body. Three years later, a hunter found Jill's remains in a densely overgrown wooded area and the entire case got turned upside down. The police no longer focused on Wendy and her friends, and instead arrested another local man, John Myers II. In 2006, he was tried, convicted, and sentenced to 65 years in prison. In 2019, his conviction was overturned. So who killed Jill Behrman?

 

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August 17, 2020

EP45: Hunting for Innocence

In the late 1990s, in and around Sacramento, California, James Daveggio and his girlfriend, Michelle Michaud were meth-heads that were obsessed with local serial killers, Gerald and Charlene Gallego. Determined to make their mark like their idols, James and Michelle began a path of destruction that began with committing heinous rape and incest crimes and ended with the torture and death of 21-year-old Vanessa Sampson. Listen to this week’s episode to hear all about the devastation caused by this monstrous duo.

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In January of 2008, Denise Amber Lee was a 21-year-old stay-at-home mother to two young children living in North Port, Florida.   While Denise Lee's husband was at work, a man entered their home in the middle of the day and kidnapped her while she was watching her two boys.  Five people called 911 regarding the crime, one of those people was the victim, Denise Lee.  Listen to all the 911 calls and find exactly what transpired on that fateful day.

 

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August 3, 2020

EP43: Buried in a Box

In September 1981, in the idyllic village of Eiching, Bavaria, Germany, a 10-year-old girl named Ursula Herrmann was riding her bike home after having dinner at her aunt and uncle’s house. Ursula never made it back to her house and seemed to vanish into thin air. Her parents received two ransom notes and phone calls from the kidnappers but after they agreed to pay the ransom and were working out the details of the ransom drop, the communications suddenly stopped. Searchers, who were combing through the woods after Ursula had been missing for 19 days, found a strange wooden box buried in the woods. When they opened it, the mysterious disappearance of little Ursula only became more puzzling...

 

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https://chaos.press/2019/08/29/a-dead-girl-buried-in-a-box-in-the-woods-part-2-crowdsourcing-the-ursula-herrmann-cold-case/

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